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« A Black History Month 2006 Plan of Action | Main | European Journalism Centre gets new director »

16 February 2006

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Joe Robinson

Whilst the City of Liverpool (of which I am an inhabitant) has only just come to terms with and publicly apologised (through the City Council) for it's part in the appalling slave trade, The Beatles themselves were always aware of it's repercussions.

They can in no way themselves be blamed for the lack of commercial interest by some white middle class Americans in the Afro-american soul and R'n'B of the late 50's onwards.

The Beatles themselves and many Liverpudlians both black and white were brought up on this music and the Beatles specifically stated the beneficial influence black music from America had on their own development.

Indeed, not only did they back the great Liverpool black vocal group The Chants (later to find success as The Real Thing), but they actively promoted black music via their own early cover versions, both before fame came their way and afterwards.

It was the great Berry Gordy himself of Tamla Motown who thanked the Beatles for raising the profile of his own artistes across the United States and in the UK.

Again, John, Paul, George and Ringo were four intelligent young men who quickly realised that the draft dodging issue of Vietnam and the fight for black civil liberties were intertwined.

Liverpool people themselves often suffer from a kind of regional 'racism' here in the UK, and along with the Irish are considered by many other English people as somehow less than respectable, whilst the fact of the matter is that they are a warm and friendly and down to earth people, as anyone who visits the city will testify. Of course the city still has it's problems with race like any other great connurbation...but tarring us all with the same historical brush is a form of bigotry in itself.

Jayne

I came across this site by chance..
I am from Liverpool and I work in music and culture.
Liverpool acknowledges its role in the slave trade but at the same time refuses to acknowledge the effect that this has had on the racial dynamics of the city today. The Beatles grew up in Liverpool's white suburbs but were deeply influenced by their life as art students living in the cosmopolitan inner city area of Toxteth. Here they had many Black friends who accompanied them on their early travels to Hamburg etc. In Liverpool today most of the black community is of mixed heritage. I am white in colour but my family arrived in Liverpool from Bermuda having been slaves of the Virginia Tobacco company.
They were of Native American and African mix. Once in Liverpool the next generation married Italian and the next Irish. African/Irish heritage is the most common racial mix in the city as the Blacks and the Irish lived in the same ghetto. The AFRO-CELTS. Today the contribution of the Beatles is acknowledged via a festival that happens every August. The festival celebrates the cities WHITE music traditions. The fact that no Black music has managed to break out of the city is very telling. This year we tried to add a Black urban music section to the weekend but the police have banned the event.As the city still fears its Black community especially its Black youth... it is really deep rooted and goes back to the cities slave trade days.
John Lennon would be turning in his grave.
Black music was the beetles passion and their greatest influence.

Jayne

I came acroos this site by chance..
I am from Liverpool and i work in music and culture.
Liverpool acknowledges its role in the slave trade but at the same time refuses to acknowledge the effect that this has had on the racial dynamics of the city today. The Bealtles grew up in liverpools white suburbs but were deeply influanced by their life as art students living in the cosmopolitain inner city area of Toxteth. Here they had many Black friends who accompanied them on their early travels to Hamburg etc. In Liverpool today most of the black community is of mixed heratge. I am white in colour but my family arrived in Liverpool from Bermuda having been slaves of the Virginia Tobacco company.
They were of Native American and African mix. Once in Liverpool the next genaration married Italian and the next Irish. African/Irish heratigae is the most common racial mix in the city as the Blacks and the Irish lived in the same ghetto. The AFRO-CELTS. Today the contribution of the Beatles is acknowledged via a festival that happens every August. The festival celebrates the cities WHITE music traditions. The fact that no Black music has managed to break out of the city is very telling. This year we tried to add a Black urban music section to the weekend but the police have banned the event.As the city still fears its Black community especially its Black youth... it is really deep rooted and goes back to the cities slave trade days.
John Lennon would be turning in his grave.
Black music was the beatles passion and their greatest influance.

Gwynn

I stumbled upon this from searching the internet for something else. I would just like to let you know that there is a world history museum in Liverpool, which acknowledges the fact that the city played a major role in the slave trade in the past. It has a section on that issue.

buddy don

fassinatin post, ma'am. i jes finished readin a book by bob spitz on the beatles. one of the most surprisin thangs is how the granparnts of john n paul all cum to englund durin the irish tater famine (1846-50). 1.5 millyun folks resettled in england they lived in liverpools irish slums (on a counta the english dont much keer fer irish folk). so i aint shore how much the beatles ancestors tuck part in liverpools slave tradin. my only point is how all this shows jes how tangled everthang is. they wuz sartinly british by the time ye wuz a fan.

ye post sum verr innerestin thoughts, as usual.

take keer
bd

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